#1 - 2024-4-27 18:12
Bernoulli
Science is about universal truth of everything around us. It must be difficult for every single person. But everyone can understand it to some extent, if they try their best, in their own way. Then the amazing is that, very different approaches seem to point toward a single truth. It's hard to imagine that, right? That's why people believe in science, its universality and believe it will lead us to the truth of nature. I'd like to understand it as an advanced version of religion, instead of spiritual power, we use facts and reasoning.

English is the best language for science because everyone all around the world can understand it. But this is just for historical reason. Science is beyond language.

PS: Social science is not science.
#2 - 2024-4-27 18:16
(待:天起凉风,日影飞去)
False. Religion is an advanced version of science.
#2-1 - 2024-4-27 20:30
Bernoulli
At least, science comes after religion, and overshadows it.
#2-2 - 2024-4-27 20:52
Jirehlov
Bernoulli 说: At least, science comes after religion, and overshadows it.
It is not the order of occurrence that represents advancement, nor is the acceptance among people.
#2-3 - 2024-4-27 20:55
Bernoulli
Jirehlov 说: It is not the order of occurrence that represents advancement, nor is the acceptance among people.
Yeah, it's much mroe. Science is open to critisim, for example. That's a more advance point I think.
#2-4 - 2024-4-27 21:27
Jirehlov
Bernoulli 说: Yeah, it's much mroe. Science is open to critisim, for example. That's a more advance point I think.
Believe before you judge. You may not have the qualification for criticizing everything.
#2-5 - 2024-4-27 21:30
Bernoulli
Jirehlov 说: Believe before you judge. You may not have the qualification for criticizing everything.
I do not have the qualification, indeed. I should have separated science and religion: they are totally different, we should not mix or compare them. My bad.
#2-6 - 2024-4-27 21:49
Jirehlov
Bernoulli 说: I do not have the qualification, indeed. I should have separated science and religion: they are tota...
You may not even realize that you've turned critical thinking and science into a religion. Once you take something for granted, try a different way of thinking.
#2-7 - 2024-4-27 21:51
Bernoulli
Jirehlov 说: You may not even realize that you've turned critical thinking and science into a religion. Once you ...
I somewhat realize that. I know I shouldn't do this for a long time. I just forgot for a moment.
#3 - 2024-4-27 18:21
Because it can create profit, capitalists like it.
#3-1 - 2024-4-27 20:29
Bernoulli
I'm not talking about techs. I know science is especially useful for tech, but that's only one application of science.
#4 - 2024-4-27 18:28
(psi!)
Actually , when we talk about science , we are talking about theorems that can be proven false , instead of just a kind of approach to understand the world. If a claim cannot be proven false , then it cannot be called science.
For example , if someone ask why an apple drop from the tree to the ground, not going to the sky, a scientist would explain this phenomenon by pointing out that there is gravity, while someone may say it is the god that make the apple drop.
#4-1 - 2024-4-27 19:31
brawatozage
波普尔是一位远离一线科学工作的哲学家,他的证伪理论是一个脱离现实的神话,从来没有被自然科学的工作者广泛接受

现实世界的工作无法被还原成波普尔想象中的可检验命题。实验观测到的天体运动数据和牛顿/爱因斯坦的理论有出入,这个观测结果就能作为对理论的证伪吗?一个天体运动的观测结果不止涉及到运动相关的物理理论的假设,还涉及到望远镜的机械结构和光的传播的理论假设,涉及诸多执行实验和数据分析过程中的假设,还有无法被还原成命题形式的隐含的实践规则,按波普尔的想法,连数学的微分方程和几何的工具都处于不可信的状态

费曼说哲学家对科学工作的作用大部分是有害的,这个论断可能有点激烈,但用来形容这个奥地利哲学家是很准确的。他关于科学的哲学理论大多是背离实际的激进臆测,剩下的则是过于显然的正确的空话,把所有命题置于不加以区分的待检验的范畴之中,拒绝赋予它们不同置信度的主观概率,那工作就没法干了,只能像哲学家一样天天在底层问题上抬杠了
#4-2 - 2024-4-27 20:33
Bernoulli
Theorem is a concept in math, not science.
Also, science requires more than just falsifiability.
#5 - 2024-4-27 18:30
什么小孩
#6 - 2024-4-27 18:31
(上古竞于道德,中世逐于智谋,当今争于气力)
Foreigner?
#7 - 2024-4-27 18:35
(摸鱼的时候会看bangumi)
命题小作文
#8 - 2024-4-27 18:35
看不懂洋文,能不能说中文
#9 - 2024-4-27 18:36
(今日无事,勾栏听曲)
#9-1 - 2024-4-27 20:15
Bernoulli
I'm not a flat earther. I just tried to mock those who accept scientific fact without actually thinking about the significance of it.
#10 - 2024-4-27 18:50
(Either you run the day or the day runs you)
I appreciate your thoughts. Though, I must point out that your English is yet to be improved. For example:
Then the amazing is that... -> Then the amazing thing is that...
That's why people believe in science, its universality... -> That's why people believe in science for its universality...
That being said, I encourage you to use English more often and share more of your thoughts.
#10-1 - 2024-4-27 20:02
Jerry@Bangumi
That's why people believe in science, its universality, and that it will lead us to the truth of nature.
#10-2 - 2024-4-27 20:27
Bernoulli
thank you for the point.
The first one is indeed my bad. But the second one I think is not what I want to say.
#11 - 2024-4-27 18:56
Ask him.
#12 - 2024-4-27 18:58
(傻逼评分)
没文化,能来个文化人翻一下吗
#12-1 - 2024-4-27 20:39
早起早睡
科学有利于团结,但请不要为了团结而科学
#12-2 - 2024-4-27 20:41
Bernoulli
早起早睡 说: 科学有利于团结,但请不要为了团结而科学
very interesting, you make a very obscure point but also very precise
#13 - 2024-4-27 18:59
啊米诺斯,中国人就说你好,一格里拉米
#14 - 2024-4-27 19:00
(jibo babybaka)
Does bgm have an English UI?
#15 - 2024-4-27 19:10
(讨厌晴天)
cause they're stupid
#15-1 - 2024-4-27 20:25
Bernoulli
In some sense, everyone are stupid. Some people just want to know more about nature, and they are good at it comparing to others.
#16 - 2024-4-27 19:13
(轻拢慢捻抹复挑,初为妳尝后六咬,我是河豚我娇㜜!)
bgm能不能加入自动翻译
#17 - 2024-4-27 19:16
(Koffein- und Brahms-Liebhaber)
i look no understand english
#17-1 - 2024-4-27 20:11
Bernoulli
but I can understand you
#18 - 2024-4-27 19:17
(Freedom is not free.)
if social science is not science, then what is it
#18-1 - 2024-4-27 20:12
Bernoulli
it's just knowledge about human society
#19 - 2024-4-27 19:19
(重申过去拥有过的,相比未来虚无缥缈的大饼更具正当性。)
我觉得比起普遍的科学,人类更需要普遍的语言,seriously.
#19-1 - 2024-4-27 20:10
Bernoulli
it's easier to have a common language I think.
#19-2 - 2024-4-27 21:11
萌萌二刺猿
Bernoulli 说: it's easier to have a common language I think.
简单吗?为什么中文互联网不说中文?
我对你的看法有大量想抨击的点,但我没有一丝与你交谈的欲望,因为用翻译器让我操作麻烦。
假如我有些对你有启发性的观点,就因为一个本可避免的语言障碍,你听不到了,如果是我我会觉得可惜。
#19-3 - 2024-4-27 21:20
Bernoulli
萌萌二刺猿 说: 简单吗?为什么中文互联网不说中文?
我对你的看法有大量想抨击的点,但我没有一丝与你交谈的欲望,因为用翻译器让我操作麻烦。
假如我有些对你有启发性的观点,就因为一个本可避免的语言障碍,你听不到了,如果是...
I agree with you. That's my lost. Please use Chinese in your convenience.
(I'm using a computer without chinese input)
#19-4 - 2024-4-27 21:52
萌萌二刺猿
Bernoulli 说: I agree with you. That's my lost. Please use Chinese in your convenience.
(I'm using a computer with...
我在我浅薄的英语水平和翻译器帮助下,从你的只言片语中窥悉出以下。
如果你推崇的并不是某个具体的科学定律,而是一种普适的、广泛认同的正确感。那么某些文化现象比science更普世,比如说一些精神和文艺作品。
如果你推崇的是科学对人们的有益性,那有益的东西太多了。
如果你推崇的是它作为一个通向真相的手段,那科学的可替代性就更明显了。且不论从历史上看一切科学都是不完备的,后来者往往会发现与前人不同的发现,科学也就无所谓真相。宗教型文化产品往往也自圆其说,而且在持续更新中永恒正确。你很难论证科学相较于宗教类的优越性,而且科学的信徒不一定更多,没人做过科学统计

通过这些推断,我认为你推崇的更像是一种科学精神,一种尽管水平有限,也要尽力接近真相的探索精神;以及可证伪、可试验的安心感,因为你得出的科学结论是有由来的。

以及你对社科的偏见是毫无道理的,对政经文社哲规律的研究是支撑人类走到今天的基石,具体论证可出书,也已经有了很多书,我就不多显露愚昧了
#19-5 - 2024-4-27 22:03
Bernoulli
萌萌二刺猿 说: 我在我浅薄的英语水平和翻译器帮助下,从你的只言片语中窥悉出以下。
如果你推崇的并不是某个具体的科学定律,而是一种普适的、广泛认同的正确感。那么某些文化现象比science更普世,比如说一些精神和文艺作...
1. I don't think art works are in general more universal than science. There are far more art genres than science.
2. I'm not talking about the benefits of science. Science comes out of the curiosity, not the purpose of finding an application.
3. Yes, a scientific theory can be turned over in future. But only if we have a more complete theory that can contain the former. In that sense, we are closing to the truth.
#19-6 - 2024-4-28 01:38
HARU
Bernoulli 说: I agree with you. That's my lost. Please use Chinese in your convenience.
(I'm using a computer with...
绝了,能上bangumi不能装中文输入法的电脑
#20 - 2024-4-27 19:20
(轻拢慢捻抹复挑,初为妳尝后六咬,我是河豚我娇㜜!)
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我认为不是🎣,是真心蠢
鉴于英语尚且过关,鉴定为学历不超过初中
已标记:bgm小丑
绝交建议:不建议绝交,留着看小丑
#20-1 - 2024-4-27 19:33
121212
我初中不会这个
#20-2 - 2024-4-27 20:08
Bernoulli
I'll take the college entrance exam this year.
#20-3 - 2024-4-27 21:37
Sawarin🎐
121212 说: 我初中不会这个
也对,内地英语比较晚🤔
#21 - 2024-4-27 19:22
英語はわがりません、 どう意味ですか
#21-1 - 2024-4-27 20:05
Bernoulli
science wa sugoi desu
#22 - 2024-4-27 19:25
(苏打饼干狂热爱好者)
前面看不懂
为什么社科不是科?
#22-1 - 2024-4-27 20:04
Bernoulli
is not science ... i'm talking about.
#22-2 - 2024-4-27 21:04
早起早睡
社科是科,这段文字里的science指代的是自然科学,普遍来说
#22-3 - 2024-4-27 21:08
十二酱★
早起早睡 说: 社科是科,这段文字里的science指代的是自然科学,普遍来说
哦哦,我懂了,谢谢
#23 - 2024-4-27 19:55
(你好啊)
It sounds like you have a deep appreciation for the universality and power of science, viewing it as a methodical pursuit of truth that transcends cultural and linguistic boundaries. The idea that diverse approaches can converge on the same fundamental truths is indeed remarkable and speaks to the robustness of the scientific method.

Your analogy of science as an advanced version of religion, grounded in facts and reasoning rather than spiritual beliefs, is an interesting perspective. While science and religion can be seen as addressing different aspects of human understanding, both involve seeking truth and meaning in the world around us.

Regarding language, while English has become the dominant language of science, as you noted, the essence of scientific inquiry transcends language barriers. Science is fundamentally about observation, experimentation, and logical reasoning, which can be communicated and understood in various languages. However, the historical dominance of English in scientific discourse does pose challenges for accessibility and inclusivity.

As for your view on social science, while it may differ from natural sciences in some aspects, it still follows rigorous methodologies and contributes valuable insights into human behavior and society. Many consider it a legitimate branch of science, albeit with its own unique challenges and methods of inquiry.

Overall, your perspective reflects a deep respect for the pursuit of knowledge and truth through science, while also acknowledging its complexities and nuances.
#23-1 - 2024-4-27 20:03
Bernoulli
chatgpt?
#24 - 2024-4-27 19:57
(Anime is trash,and so am i)
别拽洋文了
#25 - 2024-4-27 20:17
(日光之下,并无新事)
个人觉得,翻译腔太重,建议多学习学习
#25-1 - 2024-4-27 20:21
Bernoulli
That's my english level, being heavily influenced by my mother tongue. But yes, I should try to improve it.
#25-2 - 2024-4-27 21:07
eeethen_^
Bernoulli 说: That's my english level, being heavily influenced by my mother tongue. But yes, I should try to impr...
没必要跟我逞强hhh

mother tongue我猜你想说母语,这个一般会说成first language或者native language,第二,being也是一个非常没有必要的东西,被动就已经足够了,第三,我个人觉得是this而不是that,毕竟你是第一陈述方。

如果真想提高,建议你看一个频道,CNN10,之前叫做CNN student news,虽然是民主党的口舌但是这个单独的栏目不会太涉及意识形态,而且语速适中,发音标准,足够简短(10就是10mins),讲的也是都是新闻,对于简单了解最近发生了什么,并且想要锻炼听力和语感的人是相当好的入门材料。

私下吐槽一下,推荐TED talk的有一个算一个都是坏比,水平层次不齐的,万一跟印度人学坏了那可真难改。

Edit:其实楼主的英文水平不错的,至少没有显眼的语法错误,各种从句用起来也是得心应手,高中生有这样的水平至少高考135分往上了
#25-3 - 2024-4-27 21:10
Bernoulli
eeethen_^ 说: 没必要跟我逞强hhh

mother tongue我猜你想说母语,这个一般会说成first language或者native language,第二,being也是一个非常没有必要的东西,被动就已经足...
ok
#25-4 - 2024-4-28 01:58
krgykzt
eeethen_^ 说: 没必要跟我逞强hhh

mother tongue我猜你想说母语,这个一般会说成first language或者native language,第二,being也是一个非常没有必要的东西,被动就已经足...
mother tongue就是母语(至少在美国就这么说)
#26 - 2024-4-27 20:24
(已淡出bgm38)
高中英语作文?
#26-1 - 2024-4-27 21:44
HARU
有种作文题的美
#27 - 2024-4-27 20:28
(今天吃什么?)
不觉得科学就是真理

在我看来科学就是一套人造的,用来适配人类认知的系统。物理定律只是在人的感官中存在一定有序性,数学系统只是在人为建造的一套规则下进行的游戏。
所谓的理科其实本质上和社科、艺术并没有什么区别,并不更“客观”。

换句话说,如果这个世界是个游戏程序,那科学家就是看着游戏画面去反推代码,科学家发明了一套叫python的人造系统,写出的代码成功让程序跑起来了,但这并不代表这套代码就是唯一的真理,有可能这个游戏是用C++写的,或者他根本就不是用代码写的,但科学家还是用他自己发明的符合自己认知的系统让程序跑起来了
#27-1 - 2024-4-27 20:38
Bernoulli
But nature is not a computer program. Of course, you can make analog, but there is no evidence. At least according to our understanding, nature seems to be independent of how human look at it. You can use different methods or theories to describe one thing, you will end up with the same result. This suggests something much more profound than just a set of rules.
#27-2 - 2024-4-27 20:48
神户小德
Bernoulli 说: But nature is not a computer program. Of course, you can make analog, but there is no evidence. At l...
程序只是一个比喻。

另外,你所说的自然界独立于人类如何看待它,这是一种人类的傲慢。人类本身就是自然界的一部分,不可能超然独立于自然界之外去看待它,这就导致人类对自然界的观察只会是 “横看成岭侧成峰,远近高低各不同。不识庐山真面目,只缘身在此山中。”

人们可以用不同的理论去描述一件事情,正是因为人们身在自然界之中,只能看到符合自己认知的一个切面。

人们总能创造出合适的“科学理论”去适配结果,这些“科学理论”并不是客观存在的、自然界运行所依靠的齿轮,而只是一些人类做出的符合自己认知的猜想。
就像某些大学生在水论文时,会先把结论设定好,然后再去找论据来支持自己的结论,这其实就是人类科学的一个缩影
#27-3 - 2024-4-27 20:52
Bernoulli
神户小德 说: 程序只是一个比喻。
另外,你所说的自然界独立于人类如何看待它,这是一种人类的傲慢。人类本身就是自然界的一部分,不可能超然独立于自然界之外去看待它,这就导致人类对自然界的观察只会是 “横看成岭侧成峰,远...
I agree that people can not gain a truely objective view on nature. But in any case, Lu Shan is there, it's not something we imagine. I also agree with you that sometimes science researches starting with a conclusion (or I would say a conjecture). But it's not the case that we just think about the conclusion is true, instead, we are open to both positive and negative evidence.
#27-4 - 2024-4-27 21:00
神户小德
Bernoulli 说: I agree that people can not gain a truely objective view on nature. But in any case, Lu Shan is ther...
我不否认庐山/自然界是客观存在的,它有可能存在,也可能不存在,我不知道。
但我知道科学一定是人造的,一定不是客观的。
科学是人类“发明”的,不是“发现”的,包括1+1=2。
我认为人类在任何方面都不可能做到客观,无论是在艺术审美,文学评论,还是在科学理论上。

我也并不认为科学是错误的,因为科学是有用的,人们对自然界的猜想和模拟利用能改善我们的生活。但如果把科学当成真理去信仰的话,那科学的确就成为一种宗教了
#27-5 - 2024-4-27 21:08
Bernoulli
神户小德 说: 我不否认庐山/自然界是客观存在的,它有可能存在,也可能不存在,我不知道。
但我知道科学一定是人造的,一定不是客观的。我认为人类在任何方面都不可能做到客观,无论是在艺术审美,文学评论,还是在科学理论上。...
The assertion 'science is totally subjective' is too strong. Again I always agree with you that people can only see nature through their color glass. But that does not mean science is totally subjective, right?

Also I disagree that science is correct because it's useful. 1. science is not necessarily correct; 2. usefulness is not a criterion for a good science
#27-6 - 2024-4-27 21:42
神户小德
Bernoulli 说: The assertion 'science is totally subjective' is too strong. Again I always agree with you that peop...
我之所以说科学是主观的,那是因为科学理论只是在描述现象,而并不能真的指出现象背后的客规律和本质。

比如,在一些科学理论给出的规律中,三角形的内角和等于180度,重的物体会下落,两点之间直线最短,牛顿第二定律…… 但我们也知道,这些所谓的规律都是有条件的,只是我们把那些符合人类认知习惯的条件给隐藏掉了,人类把自己眼中的普遍条件视为了自然界的普遍条件。只要你把没有说明的背景条件改动一下,比如在球面上,三角形的内角和就可能不是180度了。
但即便你加上一个条件限制,说“在平面上三角形的内角和等于180度”,但这其实背后还是有大量的默认条件被你隐藏了,你再改动一个背后的条件,刚才的这条命题就又不成立了。

这时你会发现,当你想要说出一条完全正确的客观真理时,你需要不断地补充条件才能让它在各种情况下都能成立。但当你把所有的条件全都补充完毕时,你就会发现你的命题变成了一句特别长的话,变成了对一个自然界特定现象在特定条件下的描述。你本来是想从现象中概括出规律和本质,但你只要想接近客观,你就只能描述现象本身,当你想要总结规律,那你就是在隐藏掉一些被你默认成立的条件,同时也就远离了客观。
#27-7 - 2024-4-27 21:49
Bernoulli
神户小德 说: 我之所以说科学是主观的,那是因为科学理论只是在描述现象,而并不能真的指出现象背后的客规律和本质。

比如,在一些科学理论给出的规律中,三角形的内角和等于180度,重的物体会下落,两点之间直线最短,牛顿...
Yes, any science statement bases on a huge amount of assumptions. But as we progress, there are less and less assumptions. For example, as you said, curved geometry is more universal than the plane geometry. That seems to suggest that we are getting closer to the real nature.
#27-8 - 2024-4-27 22:46
brawatozage
Bernoulli 说: Yes, any science statement bases on a huge amount of assumptions. But as we progress, there are less...
非欧几何比起欧几里得几何更进步、更接近“本质”,所以数学的工作就是朝着更 general universal less assumption 的伟大方向进步?

那我们给 ZFC 里写 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 条公理代替只有一条公理的朴素集合论,是因为我们想开历史的倒车、认识不到你想象的那个“自然的本质”?

formal logic + ZFC、category theory、type theory 谁更进步?比谁公理少还是比谁生得晚?

type theory 里有了最 general、公理最少的 lambda calculus,那我们后面搞 dependent type theory、搞 homotopy type theory 是因为我们是傻逼,无法理解您小小年纪就悟出来的历史规律?

不知道就说不知道,什么都不懂的高中生不要靠想象给别人的工作写历史评判行吗?
#27-9 - 2024-4-27 22:55
Bernoulli
brawatozage 说: 非欧几何比起欧几里得几何更进步、更接近“本质”,所以数学的工作就是朝着更 general universal less assumption 的伟大方向进步?

那我们给 ZFC 里写 1 2 3 4...
I'm definitely trying to judge these kind of stuff. I know nothing about them either. The science in my mind is physics. I just want to say Eistein's gravity is more advanced than Newton's gravity.
#27-10 - 2024-4-27 23:35
brawatozage
Bernoulli 说: I'm definitely trying to judge these kind of stuff. I know nothing about them either. The science in...
爱因斯坦比牛顿进步,那比他俩更进步的 string theory 方向怎么越来越找不到工作了?
Wilson 和 Witten 两个视角不同的人做的凝聚态谁进步?
#27-11 - 2024-4-28 00:29
Bernoulli
brawatozage 说: 爱因斯坦比牛顿进步,那比他俩更进步的 string theory 方向怎么越来越找不到工作了?
Wilson 和 Witten 两个视角不同的人做的凝聚态谁进步?
I can't judge that either. I don't know string theory. I don't know who is Witten and Wilson, and what is condensed matter. But still, Einstein's gravity is a huge progress in science for its generality.
#28 - 2024-4-27 20:31
(看到就请你自己在脑内来一段超摇滚的独奏。)
#29 - 2024-4-27 20:37
(~∧o∧o@∧o@∧o~∧o∧o-∧o~∧o∧o@∧o@∧o~∧o∧o-∧o)
显然 "people love it" 未得证。
#29-1 - 2024-4-27 20:39
Bernoulli
some people
#29-2 - 2024-4-27 20:41
Killy
Bernoulli 说: some people
People love Donald Trump more than science.
#29-3 - 2024-4-27 20:45
Bernoulli
Killy 说: People love Donald Trump more than science.
again some people
#30 - 2024-4-27 20:42
(Here lies one whose name was writ in water.)
Thy missive hath strayed far from thy intended aim. Few art as fervent about science as thou claimest, for society doth embrace it chiefly for its boon to mankind. Many within the research fold pursue it for sustenance, akin to any other vocation. Yet, I discern not the crux of thy argument, nor doth a clear link bind these three passages. To cast social science from the realm of science is a baseless contention, born of whim and void of merit.
#30-1 - 2024-4-27 20:44
Bernoulli
The crux is about the true universality of science. That's something can not be expected in social science i think.
#30-2 - 2024-4-27 21:09
Lucius Chthollius Aeneae
Bernoulli 说: The crux is about the true universality of science. That's something can not be expected in social s...
Verily, yonder doth exist not solely the natural sciences, but eke the human sciences, which art more peculiarly concerned with the very essence of humanity. In mine own lowly judgment, if science be esteemed as a tool for probing the laws and qualities of matter on an objective plane, then social science is surely an inquiry into the laws of human behavior, wrought through experimentation grounded in purely scientific method. Furthermore, if thou dost define science as the quest for the verity of things, then there exists no means to disprove the laws deduced by social science, which doth not clash with «universal truths».
#30-3 - 2024-4-27 21:16
Bernoulli
Lucius Chthollius Aeneae 说: Verily, yonder doth exist not solely the natural sciences, but eke the human sciences, which art mor...
One thing I'm worrying about is, I can imagine very different human societies with very different norms and cultures. A model of social science can not be applied to all those cases. But it seems that we only have one nature, and all nature science could be consistent to each other, as it should be.
#30-4 - 2024-4-27 21:34
Sawarin🎐
坏了,真看不懂了
#30-5 - 2024-4-27 21:41
Bernoulli
Sawarin🎐 说: 坏了,真看不懂了
It's indeed very hard to read. I can't even find the translation of some words.
#31 - 2024-4-27 21:00
闹嘛
#32 - 2024-4-27 21:21
(日光之下,并无新事)
突然好奇楼主是哪地方的高中生,讲道理楼主英语水平还可以,如果是要高考的话感觉至少也是130分往上的水平,说不定都有140了,想来应该是北上广深这几个大城市的?

为啥要突然搞这种奇怪的行为艺术,是自己觉得平时英语环境不够还是老师家长要求你多写写啥的?
#32-1 - 2024-4-27 21:32
鏡花水月
18年加入,说不定已经是个老东西了
#32-2 - 2024-4-27 21:35
Bernoulli
I post not because I want to improve my English. I love science more than English. It's just because I'm using a computer without the Chinese input.

For your curiosity, my score is usually around 140 in mock exams.
#32-3 - 2024-4-27 21:38
Bernoulli
鏡花水月 说: 18年加入,说不定已经是个老东西了
You are right. I've already in the college. I said that because someone guesses I'm a secondary school student. I try to make fun out of that.
#32-4 - 2024-4-27 21:38
早起早睡
这大概是一个私人的语言数据模型
#32-5 - 2024-4-27 21:49
eeethen_^
早起早睡 说: 这大概是一个私人的语言数据模型
不存在的,哪个大模型也不会喂这样的语料的,背后应该就是一个高中生
#32-6 - 2024-4-27 21:53
eeethen_^
Bernoulli 说: I post not because I want to improve my English. I love science more than English. It's just because...
没有中文输入,那我盲猜一个Linux

另外如果你真是大学生就不会拿模拟考试的成绩说事了,别假扮大学生了hhh。

140成绩还可以,大城市的孩子英语都不赖说真的
#32-7 - 2024-4-27 21:58
缇亚拉
这英文水平不好说,全是一眼看得懂的句子。
#32-8 - 2024-4-27 22:07
eeethen_^
缇亚拉 说: 这英文水平不好说,全是一眼看得懂的句子。
高中英语考试嘛,总共也就那些东西,复杂不起来说实话。

另外高中生正是中二的年纪,过几年让他来看不得羞愧欲死hhh
#32-9 - 2024-4-27 23:56
魂魄丛雨
Bernoulli 说: I post not because I want to improve my English. I love science more than English. It's just because...
In that case,I think you’d better improve your computer using skills first : )
#33 - 2024-4-27 21:34
咋来了个老外啊,还发表这么搞笑的观点
hi,I’m forvirtue. my avatar is a phoenix baby, nice to meet you
By the way, despite lots of perverts here, I’m really pure and kind just like my name
#33-1 - 2024-4-27 21:39
Sawarin🎐
原来您头像是凤雏吗?
#33-2 - 2024-4-27 21:40
Bernoulli
I'm not a foreigner. I know you. You are dirty.
#33-3 - 2024-4-27 21:42
为了道德
Sawarin🎐 说: 原来您头像是凤雏吗?
是的,是不是很帅气啊
#33-4 - 2024-4-27 21:43
Sawarin🎐
为了道德 说: 是的,是不是很帅气啊
我只知道庞统相貌丑陋(bgm38)
#33-5 - 2024-4-27 21:43
为了道德
Bernoulli 说: I'm not a foreigner. I know you. You are dirty.
No,I am clean,you are dirty, dirty very much.
#33-6 - 2024-4-27 21:44
Bernoulli
为了道德 说: No,I am clean,you are dirty, dirty very much.
OK, all adults are dirty.
#33-7 - 2024-4-27 21:50
为了道德
Bernoulli 说: OK, all adults are dirty.
Not OK,only male is dirty, bishoujo is clean
#33-8 - 2024-4-27 21:52
为了道德
Sawarin🎐 说: 我只知道庞统相貌丑陋
那个抠脚大汉是个吹b
#33-9 - 2024-4-27 21:52
Bernoulli
为了道德 说: Not OK,only male is dirty, bishoujo is clean
you are talking about the bishoujo that is also an adult?
I only recognize bishoujo under 18.
#33-10 - 2024-4-27 21:57
为了道德
Bernoulli 说: you are talking about the bishoujo that is also an adult?
I only recognize bishoujo under 18.
include some lawful shoujo, shoujo is a kind of special creature or characteristic,anyway,a pervert like you can’t understand
#33-11 - 2024-4-27 22:04
Bernoulli
为了道德 说: include some lawful shoujo, shoujo is a kind of special creature or characteristic,anyway,a pervert ...
thanks, so you are
#34 - 2024-4-27 21:42
(そよ風が涼しく、すごく、いい!)
不知道该从哪里开始吐槽比较好(bgm39)
#35 - 2024-4-27 21:48
(如果我们忽略了自己,便无法认识身外的各种事物。)
A theory of everything is fascinating.(bgm24)
#35-1 - 2024-4-27 21:53
Bernoulli
unfortunately, people have almost given up to search for such a theory (except a small group of people)
#36 - 2024-4-27 21:49
(一个萌豚)

还以为进了quora
#37 - 2024-4-27 22:05
(REMEMBER: THE RIDE NEVER ENDS ∞)
社科不是科学是“引用”费曼,还是自己得出的?
#38 - 2024-4-27 22:17
(好看的皮囊千篇一律,有趣的灵魂万里挑一)
不会打汉字,打点拼音也行啊(bgm27)
#39 - 2024-4-27 22:25
(没有一个固定头{怎么精裂怎么爽~})
a ba a ba a ba 114514(bgm70)
#40 - 2024-4-27 22:30
(空を見ろ、空を見続けろ、答えはそこにある。)
上一次看见这么好读的英文还是在川普的推文
#41 - 2024-4-27 22:33
Maybe you can go to the Tea Party group. You are welcome to use English there. But in 靠谱人生茶话会, it seems a little strange to use English.
#42 - 2024-4-27 22:36
(想象力可以改变一切)
You are really sb
#42-1 - 2024-4-27 22:43
鏡花水月
就这句看懂了
#42-2 - 2024-4-27 22:45
孙连城
不愧是英语专八
#43 - 2024-4-27 22:41
(編輯個性簽名)
喜来乐
#44 - 2024-4-27 22:45
(汉东省京州市光明区区长、京州市少年宫课外辅导员)
穷山沟里出来的土鳖没学过洋文,问一下这是什么语言?
#45 - 2024-4-27 22:57
怎么一天没看一百多楼了,等你之后大学毕业一定要把这个帖发给你。
#45-1 - 2024-4-27 23:10
#45-2 - 2024-4-28 00:34
121212
哈哈。
#45-3 - 2024-4-28 02:15
瑞穗真帅
也许人家大学还是没啥改变呢
#46 - 2024-4-27 23:05
你ban这么国际化的吗?一进茶话会给我看懵了。
#47 - 2024-4-27 23:14
(==)
你ban是什么英语作文练习网站吗?
#48 - 2024-4-27 23:33
(Life, what is it but a dream?)
已阅,鉴定为经典中式英语
#49 - 2024-4-27 23:35
(我长大了要发明7G)
多用DeepL Write
以及既然你人都在bgm了,可以多看英字
#50 - 2024-4-27 23:55
(私のツッコミは仕事です(w (吐槽ing)
Personally speaking, I believe that our nature always pushes us to find out the truth of this world.You see, however, most religions are tryin' to let u give everything u got to a uncertain symbolize, which just lmao 😂  (4 me though
#50-1 - 2024-4-28 02:55
Jerry@Bangumi
什么Gen Z(
#51 - 2024-4-28 01:31
You are proposing that people shouldn't like science because it requires more efforts to acquire. i.e. you believe in that the easier something is, the more people should like it.

To put it brief, the assumption is okay, people do dislike difficulty, while the argument is reasoning incorrectly, because people like and dislike things for many different reasons. In this case, instead of difficulty, the reason why science is one popular thing many people believe in is its practical effects. Science just works. Other beliefs, e.g. religious one, could be an alternative when you find no differences.

有个类似的推导谬误是:既然难过,为什么人还喜欢看悲剧?喜欢悲剧并不是因为享受痛苦,不能看到悲剧的其中一个特点,就断言它和受众的喜好存在因果关系。

Modern science has a root in ancient Greek philosophy and <How do we know>  (《给四月的信》) is a good short book to review how it has risen up to become the dominative cognitive method today. 《哲学・科学・常识》 (陈嘉映) is a more comprehensive one expatiating on this topic.

It might be a good language practice, but better to post an English query in an English forums such as Quora and Reddit where most users are the native speaker of the language you choose so that people can focus on the topic using that language.
#52 - 2024-4-28 01:52
(又下雪了)
别拽洋文
#53 - 2024-4-28 02:08
看不懂了